No one will ever "turn black" by gettin' golden from sun-bathing. And no one will ever "turn white" from hair-straightening treatments.
And, for crying out loud, neither will ever get anyone accepted by either "black" culture or "white" culture. A black woman with straight hair is surely NOT going to get a "white ticket". And a white women can't be a "sista" simply by roasting in the sun. Nope, neither is going to happen... So why do we go on and on about "whites tan to be black" and "blacks straighten to be white"?
Why are we stuck in such a stupid rut? Why can't we just stop BS arguments like this and accept that people are just people who do things because, duh, they want to do things?
What's wrong with us? Why can't we accept each other?
"White" sun-tanning vs. "black" hair-straightening- Why is there an argument about the two?
some people just don't get it. i understand completely what you're saying.
yea uh, people don't simply "do things". we're all influenced by something. but you [someone above] are not getting what this person is asking and saying. anybody with common sense should be able to see that she isn't claiming that people don't try to be something they're not. after all, that's exactly what you're doing when you alter your appearance [you're changing yourself to have traits that you didn't have before]. uh, hellllo! that's not the point. the whole point of the question is to ask why people think black women straighten "to be white" and white women tan "to be black".
and excuse me, but anyone with a brain knows racism is why perms became popular. that's not the issue here. the issue is why are we still making these accusations? and it mostly isn't the white people doing it anymore. we're doing it to ourselves. the majority of white society has accepted "ethnic" hair and whatever people want to do with it. we, black people, are the ones who are turning gray over this nonsense. why? correct me if i'm wrong, Action, but i think what i'm saying is sort of where you were going with this question.
and yes the curly hair arguement does make sense. do you see any whites accusing each other of trying to be black just because they get curls in their hair, or any black people either? no. no one accuses the white people of this, and that's what i think she's trying to say [that for some reason people are stuck on making hair accusations to black women just like they're stuck on making accusations about tanning to white women].
i sure am glad that at least SOME people understand what you [asker] are saying.
"White" sun-tanning vs. "black" hair-straightening- Why is there an argument about the two?
Obviously nobody looked at the link... Blacks are constantly sold the same image, still today. All the images you see of perm boxes are of less ethnic women. Not only with straighter hair, but lighter skin. It's embedded in African American culture. Report It
"White" sun-tanning vs. "black" hair-straightening- Why is there an argument about the two?
The "White Image" of beauty is constantly being sold to them and they are BUYING into it. It's not the same as the tanning example OR the curly perm example because white women have never been asked to assimilate. What would they be assimilating to? Report It
"White" sun-tanning vs. "black" hair-straightening- Why is there an argument about the two?
I understand the argument, but if you don't look at the history of perms and how litte the images of American beauty has changed, you will see that you cannot compare perms to tanning, at all. It doesn't make sense. period. Report It
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However, let me note that i does not have to be a conscious decision, but iis still the harsh reality of African American culture:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=17f...
Not the best example, but you get the point, right Report It
"White" sun-tanning vs. "black" hair-straightening- Why is there an argument about the two?
By the way, your arguement is extremely is simple minded. Try looking at African American advertising in a historical context, it'll add more depth to your argument. Report It
"White" sun-tanning vs. "black" hair-straightening- Why is there an argument about the two?
we cannot accept ourselves.
"White" sun-tanning vs. "black" hair-straightening- Why is there an argument about the two?
because people are looking for something to argue about. your right about this %26amp; its not only BS but its childish. this is why other contries look down upon us do to this childish high standards %26amp; the pity raicsim still going around. but im black %26amp; i dont like my hair being curly when its long, honestly i dont know where that statement about trying to be white came from but that is just plain ignorant. if i have my afro out thats sumthing different then me wantin my hair straight for a new style. come on now people
"White" sun-tanning vs. "black" hair-straightening- Why is there an argument about the two?
People like to nit pick over every little thing.
"White" sun-tanning vs. "black" hair-straightening- Why is there an argument about the two?
I completely agree with you. Who cares?? But I can say that I'm sick of hearing black people on here say that white people are trying to look more "black".LOL...I always laugh my a*s off when I hear that. Because last time I checked, black women are not and never have been considered the standard of beauty...sorry. Unless we are speaking of the wiggers. That's a whole other issue. Yes they are sad, pathetic, posers of which neither race respects.
"White" sun-tanning vs. "black" hair-straightening- Why is there an argument about the two?
#24-Black women are beautiful no matter what these white folks say. Yes a standard of beauty created by white folks for white folks. To hell with their standard of beauty. Beauty comes in many shades and shapes. Sad enough white people don't accept other forms of beauty, other than their own.
"White" sun-tanning vs. "black" hair-straightening- Why is there an argument about the two?
i have no idea personally i find it rather amusing. the lengths folks will go to prove that they have nothing in common with this group or that never ceases to amaze. it seems that humanity and logic have never made good bed-fellows so if for nothing else i might as well get a good laugh out of it now
"White" sun-tanning vs. "black" hair-straightening- Why is there an argument about the two?
Yeah... people tend to make mountains out of molehills. People just do things because, in general, we all want what we can't have. I don't think it's necessarily a black or white thing either... Redheads want to be blonde, curly-haired people want to straighten, chubby girls want to be thin, thin girls want curves... the list goes on. It's just human nature...
I agree with you that people should not judge others and act like someone's going to lose their ethnicity over a change like that
"White" sun-tanning vs. "black" hair-straightening- Why is there an argument about the two?
People don't simply "do things". There is a reason why people want to tan and why people want to relax their hair. And there is a reason why it's popular, and much of it is emulating something that you are not.
Personally, I don't know why tanning became popular, but I do know that perms became popular due to racism and assimilation. Which is why rejection of assimilation came in style with the Afro and Black Power/Black is Beautiful Mov't, and why some black Americans choose not to relax their hair. However, I believe relaxers are so embedded in African American culture that it's not simply a "desire" to look less ethnic. But that's where the argument stands...
Edit:
Back In Action. Start by reading:
http://www.amazon.com/Style-Status-Selli...
Your curly hair arguement doesn't make sense.
"White" sun-tanning vs. "black" hair-straightening- Why is there an argument about the two?
LOL!
very well said :)
"White" sun-tanning vs. "black" hair-straightening- Why is there an argument about the two?
You make some valid points. As for Linda B., Obviously, you have not been very many places or seen very many people. Beauty exists in all races. It is most narrow minded and superficial to suggest that there is one measuring stick that defines beauty the world over.
"White" sun-tanning vs. "black" hair-straightening- Why is there an argument about the two?
It's really sad.
"White" sun-tanning vs. "black" hair-straightening- Why is there an argument about the two?
It's because some people have no lives and are willing to complain over anything. I don't know why this topic is even mentioned anymore.
"White" sun-tanning vs. "black" hair-straightening- Why is there an argument about the two?
what? my friends black daughter straightens her hair because she doesn't like her curls not to be white. And why would people tan so they can be black? You need some professional help and soon.
"White" sun-tanning vs. "black" hair-straightening- Why is there an argument about the two?
I never did understand that how tanning was synonymous with "wanting to be black." when I heard that on here, I was very amused. I wasn't surprised that black people would claim that.
"White" sun-tanning vs. "black" hair-straightening- Why is there an argument about the two?
agree with ceasarmo....
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